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We recently sat down with Sarah Garry, CEO of the Property Care Association (PCA), for an insightful discussion on her journey, the PCA's strategic priorities, and the vital collaboration between our organisations.

Andrew McColl (RPSA Chairman): Well, Sarah, thank you very much for having me at your lovely offices today, and for the added parking bonus of charging my car! The first thing I wanted to ask you is, you've been in the role now for about 18 months. Could you tell me how you came into this position and how you've found the journey so far as a 'captain of industry'?

Sarah Garry (PCA CEO): Thank you, Andrew, and I love that you called me a 'captain of industry'! It certainly makes one feel very special. Yes, thank you, it's been a really interesting journey and I'm absolutely delighted to be here.

I've spent around 20 years working in membership bodies and not-for-profit organisations, with the past ten years specifically in construction-related organisations. I was policy director at Build UK for a significant period, which represents specialist contractors and main contractors within the construction sector, covering everything from major household names like Kier and Willmott Dixon, right through to highly niche specialist occupations such as steeplejacks, glaziers, and door and hardware fitters. That was an incredible organisation to be a part of. After leaving there, I took on another chief executive role in the soil sector. While that might sound quite removed from construction or my current work, there are actually many strong links. Every time you build something, you move soil around, and one of the key areas PCA focuses on is invasive plants. These plants often spread in disturbed soil, so there's quite a strong connection between the various organisations I've been involved with.

Andrew McColl: Right, so do we get first refusal if you ever get fed up then? You sound absolutely ideal for this role!

Sarah Garry: [Laughs] I feel very positive about it, thank you.

Andrew McColl: Sarah, looking ahead, what are your key priorities or changes you'd like to implement at the PCA? Are there any new directions or innovations you're particularly excited about?

Sarah Garry (PCA CEO): Yes, thank you. When I started in this post, as you mentioned, about 18 months ago, it was a great opportunity for me to sit with the board, understand what they wanted to achieve, and how they perceived themselves as an organisation. Crucially, I also took significant member feedback into account.

From this, we developed our new mission: 'to improve the quality of the built and natural environment for the benefit of all.' I believe this is a fantastic statement because it positions us to undertake work that not only benefits our members by improving their profitability and bottom line but also ensures we make a tangible difference to people's homes and their surrounding environments. Our strategy is built upon four key pillars:

• Assured Standards and Consumer Confidence: When we consider how consumers interact with our members, what's paramount to them? It ensures that the companies they engage with are properly audited, possess the highest level of technical competence, and are organisationally sound. Therefore, I'm prioritising with the team that we maintain our bi-annual audits, ensuring our members consistently deliver technical excellence.
• Members’ Business Growth: This involves helping them with aspects beyond technical best practice – how can we support them in expanding their businesses? For example, can we support them by helping to implement AI within their businesses or improving their marketing?
• Career Progression: This ensures we attract new entrants into the industry and, crucially, that they wish to remain once they're here. We're finding this to be a real challenge for some of our members. Some of the work our members do isn't always perceived as the most glamorous or attractive role – going out, chipping away at brick, and installing damp-proof courses or undertaking surveys isn't always what people aspire to, particularly in the depths of winter! However, it's incredibly rewarding to see people's homes protected and free from damp. So, over the coming months and years, we'll be working on attracting more people into the industry.
• Influencing and Communicating: To support all of the above, we need to engage with the right organisations. For example, yesterday I attended a DEFRA Flood Resilience Roundtable meeting to discuss how we can better integrate flood-resilient construction into new builds and retrofit existing buildings. Our effectiveness is directly tied to the external influence we exert. I'm quite excited about raising the profile of the PCA over the coming months and years.

Andrew McColl: Well, I'm very inspired, Sarah! I've only been in my role for about four months, and you've been in yours for 18 months – wow! I've certainly taken a lot on board from you, and I really admire your enthusiasm and your energy, and the way things are clearly progressing so well for you. We at the RPSA truly appreciate the PCA’s proactive approach with resources like your webinars, and especially your topics such as BS 40104. Could you tell us more about upcoming sessions or new training initiatives? Are there any particular themes or focus areas for 2025?

Sarah Garry: Yes, we're going to continue with the theme of delivering free webinars, which will be available to all. We'll be distributing details via the RPSA newsletter, and they'll also be available on our LinkedIn channel. We've already pre-planned the webinar programme for the next year or so, and there will certainly be some topics of interest to your members.

For example, we will be looking at buried roofs, focusing on structural waterproofing at level access. We're hearing from organisations like NHBC that these are a regular cause for concern, as they're seeing increases in damp and mould where buried roofs haven't been properly waterproofed. We'll also be doing a webinar on flood-resilient construction. There's British Standard 85500 on flood-resilient construction and its solutions. As I mentioned earlier with the roundtable yesterday and with a Defra review expected later in the year, coupled with a Labour government that's very keen on embedding flood-resilient construction into our national portfolio of new homes, I think we are likely to see some significant changes to the way homes are built, with flood-resilient construction in mind, and potentially some retrofitting for existing homes, which I believe will be of great interest. The other significant issue I know surveyors are encountering frequently is spray foam in properties. And we have just launched some guidance for consumers on this, which the RPSA kindly supported, and we also have some research into spray foam that will form the basis of another webinar later in the year too.

Andrew McColl: No, that's brilliant. I'm going to ask a question actually about flooding and surveyors. I mean, naturally, we all consult government websites and conduct desktop research, and we note whether a property is at low risk from rivers, seas, reservoirs. Should we as surveyors be doing more and saying more about things? Things will change with global warming, or have we already done everything we reasonably can?

Sarah Garry: I think that's a really interesting point, and actually the feedback that came up yesterday from particularly the mortgage companies and the insurers was that they are beginning to – well, they obviously think about the long-term rather than just the short-term. So they are looking at whether the property will still be mortgageable in thirty years' time. Many people are now taking out longer mortgages, thirty or even forty years.

They want to ensure their investment will still be in good condition in forty years' time. And I don't know if you've seen it, but I believe it was last year, in 2024, NASA released some data about what London might look like in the next ten to 20 years and the new parts of the city that will be underwater because of global warming and climate change. So I don't think there's any harm in stating in your reports that things may change, particularly where properties are near rivers, or at the coast, places that might burst their banks. However, we also need to consider other climate-related risks that could arise from climate change. For example, with higher levels of rainfall, are the drainage channels around the property big enough to cope if there were higher levels of rainfall? Does the property have a tarmac drive?

If there is flood or a large amount of rain, where will that water go? If it's on tarmac, it has nowhere to run off, and depending on the property, it may run into the building. So, it's not solely about direct flooding; there are other climate-related risks that might impact property in the future, which both homeowners and surveyors should be aware of.

Andrew McColl: I have actually just published a blog on the website. This was prompted by some comments from the Law Society about climate change, which I read and then wrote a blog about. I'd like to direct all RPSA members to it, and I will send it to you for your review. But yes, it's fascinating to consider how properties might need higher capacity gutters, and how things are going to cope with increased rainfall in the future?

I've even come across soakaways and gardens that can't cope with the amounts of rainfall. However, I think this is something we could really delve into in another spotlight interview. Oh, yes, there was one other thing I wanted to ask you, because you've sparked a thought here. I recall that about ten years ago, Mike Ockenden, our former secretariat provider, was strongly advocating for non-return valves on drainage systems, as it seemed like a no-brainer.

To me, one of the biggest problems with flooding isn't just the water itself, but the waste that backs up into a house, meaning everything essentially needs to be skipped. I think that we perhaps need to do more to educate our surveyors about non-return valves and related measures, perhaps through more CPD. Perhaps we could consult with some of your drainage specialists, as that seems to be one of the most cost-effective yet effective improvements a homeowner can make to prevent damage.

Sarah Garry: That's a really good point, Andrew, and something perhaps we could pick up as part of our flood-resilient construction webinar.

Andrew McColl: Sarah, it seems to me that the collaboration between the PCA and the RPSA is going to be mutually beneficial. I mean, we get on absolutely great, and I can clearly see the synergies. But how do you envision some of this collaboration? And I will, I'll tell you why I think that too.

Sarah Garry: Yes, well, as you know, our membership spans a wide range of sectors. We represent damp and timber surveyors, and I know many of your members recommend our members to come in and deal with those surveys or remediation aspects in properties. We also represent the structural waterproofing and flood resilience sectors, as well as the invasive plant sectors, ground gas, and structural repair. So, we're incredibly versatile in our membership. Because of this, there are always new initiatives and technical aspects we need to address. As we've just been discussing, flooding and climate change are becoming increasingly important.

This is crucial for surveyors, homeowners, and tenants alike. We're observing properties that weren't previously susceptible to the impacts of climate change now feeling them. If we look outside the UK, there are areas of the world where people can no longer live because climate change has affected them so severely. While we don't see that to the same extent here yet, we have witnessed huge floods in places like Germany and Spain – regions I've never known to flood like that in my lifetime – and the impacts are incredibly severe. For instance, we recently saw, I believe it was in Spain, a basement car park where people tragically lost their lives trying to recover their cars. That's simply unprecedented in the West; we don't typically associate such events with our world and our way of life.

Andrew McColl: I can actually see how that happens. I was on holiday in France and Spain, and I took the car. We had to go – in fact, it was in Spain – into some car parks where I didn't think the car would fit down the passage; they were so steep and windy. Then trying to find your way out of these car parks... I can absolutely see how they could have filled up and flooded so, so easily.

Sarah Garry: And it's frightening, isn't it? I'm not sure whether we're quite at that point in the UK yet, but there are definitely things for us to consider in how we construct properties, how we retrofit properties, and when we're surveying properties. This is because we want to ensure that houses and commercial premises remain suitable and safe for many, many years to come.

That means we can't just build and think about our communities as they are now; we must consider how they might be in a hundred years' time.

Andrew McColl: Yeah, it's quite funny – when I bought the house I'm in now, one of my main drivers was actually about flooding, so I bought a house on the top of a hill. The one thing I didn't think about was the wind and the storms that we now experience.

Sarah Garry: Yes, which presents another problem, I suppose: is the guttering wide enough?

Andrew McColl: Well, it's not the guttering, it's your garden furniture! You can't leave it out because it just disappears. You could never leave a gazebo out; it would be gone in two seconds flat. Anyway, on the subject of collaboration, one of the things that I'm really trying to do is increase our library of useful documents. I think there's a great opportunity there, given the wealth of knowledge within the PCA.

If we can bring some of these subjects together to educate our members, I think it's not always about simply knowing about something; it's about 'what to do next?' 'Who do I go to?' 'Who do I talk to?' 'Who is a specialist in this?' 'Am I giving them the best possible advice?' Because it's all very well identifying an issue, but surveyors really have to consider the consequences of what they've seen if someone doesn't act on it. And are we advising them correctly, pointing them in the right direction? And we can't always be on every CPD course all the time, and things change, so maintaining a library of useful documents on subjects...

I mean, that would be great. I mean, branded PCA, of course, you're the author of it. But we're certainly looking forward to having that library of documents. The other thing, of course, is we want to be directing some of our members to your resources as well – a simple click of a link, and they're straight through.

I mean, the PCA YouTube channel is absolutely amazing. That's a goldmine – a real treasure-trove, right? So I'm surprised you're not charging for access to it!

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Sarah Garry: No, but you're absolutely right. And I think there are some great opportunities for us to share the information we have. My view is that the more people who have access to something, the more we're going to change society. And if we revisit our mission as the PCA, which is about improving the quality of the built and natural environment, then if we keep all of that knowledge to ourselves, how on earth are we ever going to achieve that for the benefit of everybody? But you're absolutely right, the webinars and all of our other videos are freely available on YouTube. In the meantime, before we get our technical documents over to you, our website also has many technical documents and a wealth of information, as well as our Find-a-Member function. So if you are looking for somebody in your local area – and you're right, surveyors can't be expected to know everything about everything; there are so many different aspects of a building to consider.

You're never going to know it all, and there's nothing wrong with pointing people, as you said, in a specialist's direction if you don't have the answers.

Andrew McColl: But perhaps we should have a chat with Jerry, who's our IT guy, and your IT guy, and see what links we can establish. I mean, for our members to come to our site and say, 'Right, I can find a specialist,' click, click, click – everyone wins, absolutely everybody wins! So yeah, I think we've hit upon a bit of a no-brainer there. Thank you for the discounts you give our members.

That is greatly, greatly appreciated. And we will be doing some more; we're getting further into CPD in the not-too-distant future. While a lot of it will be free and open source, if we were to do a paid CPD event, we would, of course, look to return the compliment with a discount there.

Andrew McColl: Sarah, I have to ask you about spray foam and the current situation with it. I know that you've been doing some incredible work, and it's all been very fast-moving. I also know that you've been running courses on how to inspect and report on spray foam, so I actually think that everybody will be very interested in what you have to say.

Sarah Garry: Um, yes, so you're right. We have a one-day course on evaluating spray foam, which we run for surveyors, because we know so many of you are encountering spray foam in your work.

Andrew McColl: And Sarah, I believe there's a discount available for RPSA members?

Sarah Garry: Yes, a discount is available for all RPSA members; we know it’s something people are commonly seeing now, which is why my predecessor, Steve, developed the course. You're right, we have been working positively to help consumers who've already had spray foam installed in their properties as a retrofit measure, distinct from new builds constructed with spray foam, of which we know there are some. As I mentioned earlier, we produced a guidance note specifically for consumers, which is based on the Spray-Foam Inspection Protocol we developed together.

This was a few years ago. Since then, however, we've also conducted a data analysis – a survey with our surveyor members who are trained to inspect spray foam – to understand what they are actually seeing on-site. I think there has been a lot of conversation about both good and poor examples of spray foam, but we've never had any independent data to back any of that up. So, we believe we have the only independent dataset, using information directly from surveyors, rather than from installers, manufacturers, or mortgage companies. The feedback from that, which we released yesterday[SG1] , was that in 79% of cases, the surveyors observed a divergence from the Spray-Foam Inspection Protocol.

And in the most severe cases, 27% of the properties they inspected required either a re-roof or re-insulation as a result of their findings. This data is based on approximately 500 properties inspected since our register of spray-foam surveyors was launched at the beginning of 2024. So, there's some really significant data there, which we've forwarded to Minister Fahnbulleh, who is the Minister for Energy Consumers, for their review. Again, this aligns with the PCA's mission: to ensure a quality built environment.

We are currently seeing situations where mortgage companies, as you know, won't lend on properties with spray foam installed, which places consumers in a very difficult position. They've had this material put into their property in good faith, and now they find themselves in a challenging predicament. Our role in this has been to provide the evidence, which then allows other stakeholders to take action and, ultimately, to help consumers.

Andrew McColl: If members who’ve completed the course, does it actively help them in the field, or is it just confirming that there's a problem? Does it offer any scope or advice to actually help a consumer directly? I suppose what most of us would be looking at is, can I earn a living from doing such a survey? Is this something worthwhile doing? How much is a spray-foam assessment or survey, as such? Probably a lot of questions mixed up there!

Sarah Garry: Yes, and I couldn't tell you how much a survey would be; I don't think I'd be allowed to, even if I wanted to, to openly discuss market rates. However, there is certainly a market for these surveys, particularly when people are buying homes or seeking equity release. We know from our relationship with the Homeowners Alliance that there are currently no equity release providers – at the time of speaking – who are willing to lend on a property that has spray foam installed. Some mortgage companies will, but they invariably require an independent survey. We're also finding that the Daily Mail and the BBC love to talk about spray foam.

It's quite an engaging topic, a consumer protection issue that everyone wants to discuss. So, we often find that after a documentary has aired, we receive numerous phone calls about spray foam, with people asking, 'Can you come and do a survey on my house?' Very often, these calls are from consumers who are simply concerned, and that was one of the primary reasons we developed the guidance note for consumers. In most situations, there's no need for consumers to worry if they are not planning to sell their home. If there are no obvious signs of damp or mould, they're probably fine in the short term. However, what the guidance does recommend is that you get a survey, and you should ensure you have the up-to-date pack from whoever installed the spray foam. This means making sure you have all the evaluations that took place pre- and post-installation, for example, and all the various manuals and guarantees as part of that pack. It's incredibly important for a future point when you may decide you want to sell, and at that point, you will need a surveyor's report.

Andrew McColl: But I must ask, with the surveyor's report, are they specifying a PCA-accredited surveyor, or something similar? What would be the title of someone who's been on the course? Is it an accreditation, a qualification?

Sarah Garry: It is a training course, effectively CPD. People who choose to attend the training course don't come away with a formal qualification.

Andrew McColl: Because the RPSA advises on...

Sarah Garry: Oh no, there isn't a qualification. That's one of the reasons it's a training course, not a qualification. However, as a result of attending that course and having the appropriate PI insurance, you can be listed on the PCA's register of spray-foam assessors.

Andrew McColl: So, insurance companies will be much happier that you have been on such a course if you're giving this advice, because we all have to operate within our competency. Is there any mention, when advising on getting a surveyor, that it's preferable to choose somebody who's been on the PCA course, or is it simply 'get a competent surveyor'?

Sarah Garry: That's a really good question, Andrew. And I don't know the answer to that, to be totally honest. I would hope that there is some mention, but I can't tell you for certain, and I imagine the various lenders have slightly different approaches.

Andrew McColl: Yes, exactly. So, we at the RPSA should be 'banging the drum' about not stepping outside your competency. If you want to start assessing or commenting on spray foam, there's a course with 10% off that might just have your name on it! Well, Sarah, I'd like to tell you about one of the days I had last week when I went to the Property Management Institute. There was the most amazing speaker from the HSE, the Health and Safety Executive, who was talking about the Building Safety Act 2022. Most people in the audience were yawning, and it was a little tiring, but she said some things that really struck a chord and certainly made me sit up in my seat. She stated that the Building Safety Act applies to all properties. Most people in that room were thinking about commercial properties, tower blocks, and so on, but she clarified that it even applies to a semi-detached house.

So, if you're a professional giving advice, reporting, or assessing, you have a duty under this Act. I thought, 'Wow, this is really, really interesting.' Are we reporting as correctly and thoroughly as we should be? Not just identifying things, but are we clearly stating the consequences of not doing something about it? And what are your views on this, Sarah, because I certainly did not have this level of awareness last week.

Sarah Garry: Yes, well, I've been heavily involved in this agenda for the last seven years. Since the tragedy at Grenfell Tower happened, I was fortunate enough to be part of the initial competence steering group that was examining the competence of professionals, installers, tradespeople, and the fire service across the board.

And what's truly – I'm choosing my words carefully here – positive to see as an outcome is that the professions, trades, and occupations across the sector are all coming together to realise that, yes, we do need to make changes. Things haven't worked as well as perhaps they should have over the last 50 to 100 years in the construction sector – and I use 'construction sector' very loosely; I mean the property sector. I think a few things sprang to mind from this. Firstly, the Act calls for competence; it defines what competence is, and everyone should be competent to perform the job they are supposed to do. There is information on the Construction Leadership Council's website outlining what competence looks like, and various organisations have been involved in designing what competence means for each sector. Each of those sectors, and the individuals within them, will have to demonstrate that they possess the knowledge, the skills, the ethics, and the behaviours to carry out and continue carrying out their work. And, obviously, that includes recognising when you are not competent to do something. We had a conversation earlier about this.

I don't know if you're saying, 'Well, that's okay to not know everything.' What's important is, if you don't know everything, you say, 'I don't know everything. I've reached the limit of my competence, and now I need to refer to a PCA member, for example, who's an expert in damp or timber remediation.'

So, it's about understanding both what I am currently competent to do, but also the limits of my competence. I do think people have to be mindful of that. Now, the Building Safety Regulator is in charge of this space, and there is this perception that it only applies to high-rise residential buildings – which are now renamed 'higher-risk buildings' – but it does, in fact, apply to all buildings.

This includes developing competence frameworks for sectors like civil engineering, for example. We at the PCA are fortunate enough to be chairing seven competence working groups, defining what competence looks like for the technical sectors we oversee. However, it also presents other challenges regarding the interrelationship between various roles. Where does one role start and another finish? If you're designing a system for a building, and someone else installs it slightly differently to your design, where does one person's responsibility end and the other's begin?

So it's definitely something surveyors should be aware of. It's certainly something that prompts you to go back and review your skills, asking, 'Am I competent to do that? Do I need more training? How can I refresh my knowledge and keep it up-to-date?'

Because if at any point you are called to account under the Act, one of the things the regulator will ask for is proof that you've been undertaking your CPD. For example, if you've been giving advice on X, have you been undertaking training on X to keep your skills and knowledge up-to-date? So, it places the responsibility on every individual to ensure they continue to be competent.

Andrew McColl: Yes, because I was thinking about this: a surveyor might state, 'Well, reporting on X, Y, and Z isn't within the scope of the survey.' But then you have the conflict of your duty of care. So, if you encounter, say, a boiler in an enclosed space with no windows and no carbon monoxide alarm or detector – or even if there is a carbon monoxide detector, let's face it, it's a battery-operated device that someone could easily put in their pocket and take away. I do think that all surveyors need to perhaps hone their skills a little bit on health and safety generally. Perhaps these are courses or CPD we need to explore.

Sarah Garry: Yes, and I think it's also about being pragmatic. As you said, you can't know everything and answer every question. And as a surveyor, you might be in a position where your client is different from the person living in the property. So, to use your example, a carbon monoxide monitor might be battery-operated and out of batteries.

You haven't been asked to look at that, but you notice it. You might want to give some advice to the tenant to ensure they are safe. Doing the right thing means giving the tenant the information they need to live in their property safely.

Andrew McColl: I often receive phone calls asking, 'How do I report on this?' or 'It's something I've not come across.' My advice is always: don't feel you have to write an essay on something you don't know about or understand, simply because you feel the client has paid you a large fee. You have to know when to say 'I don't know' and when to pass it on, perhaps even reaching the stage of knowing who to ask next, or advising the client that they need to talk to a specialist.

Sarah Garry: And you're quite right. Sometimes that might just be a paragraph at the end of your report: 'I wasn't asked to look at X, Y, and Z; however, I noticed the boiler hasn't been serviced for 12 months. I would recommend a follow-up survey with an appropriate person.'

Andrew McColl: So, the PCA's forthcoming conference in November sounds like a great event. Can you give us a preview of what to expect and why it might be of interest to residential property surveyors, as well as your core membership? I'm personally honoured to have been asked as a judge at the awards. Thank you again for the opportunity; it would be great to hear your thoughts on the event's broader aims and highlights.

Sarah Garry: And we're delighted you'll be joining us, thank you so much! Yes, so this year we are hosting our annual conference on Thursday, the 27th of November 2025. For any football fans, it will be at Old Trafford Stadium – and even those of you who aren't football fans will just love coming and having a look around!

Sarah Garry (resuming conference details): This year, we will be doing things slightly differently. In the past, we've held three separate conferences, and the feedback from the majority of members has been that it's been incredibly challenging to dedicate three different days to attend a conference. So, we will have three separate parallel sessions, all running on the same day. This is one of the reasons it makes it so appealing to members and non-members alike – you can dip in and out of various programmes throughout the day. We will have a session on structural waterproofing, ground gas, and flood resilience; one on damp and timber; and one on invasive plants. Across all programmes, we're looking at topics such as issues we've found in new buildings, why they're happening, retrofitting, and why and how we keep making the same mistakes.

We also have a session on the joint position statement we produced with RICS on damp and remediation in heritage properties. And we're also looking at AI – artificial intelligence – and how we can embed that into our members' businesses, amongst lots of other exciting topics. So, I think regardless of whether you're a surveyor or a contractor, there'll be something on the programme for you.

Andrew McColl: Right, sounds like a great event! And when is the event?

Sarah Garry: It's on Thursday, the 27th of November 2025.

Andrew McColl: And where can one get tickets from?

Sarah Garry: You can get tickets from the PCA website right now; just have a look at the events section.

Andrew McColl: Right, fantastic. Seems like a great plug! Thank you, Sarah, and I look forward to doing this again. Actually, I think we have so much more to talk about, from climate change to black mould. Black mould is definitely a topic I'm very, very interested in, as are so many members. Perhaps we could...

Sarah Garry: We could talk about that for hours! With the Social Housing Act coming into force in October as well, there are going to be some big changes in the social housing sector, and definitely more of a focus on mould and damp in social housing. 

Andrew McColl: Oh, thank you.

Sarah Garry: Thank you.

Additional Information

• This interview offers general insight only and should not be treated as legal      advice. Surveyors must refer to the Building Safety Regulator’s guidance and their own professional body’s standards.
• Useful links:
  • HSE Building Safety Act: https://www.hse.gov.uk/building-safety/    Click Here
  • CLC competence hub: https://www.constructionleadershipcouncil.co.uk/competence/     Click Here
  • PCA CPD listings: https://www.property-care.org/CPD  Click Here

RPSA members benefit from a 10% discount on all PCA training and events. Further information is available on the PCA website, and to book your place, contact 01480 400 000, quoting your RPSA membership details.

A guided tour of the PCA offices -

Here in PCA Central, we have some very interesting pot plants within the office - funnily enough, there are no names on the pots, so it was decided to call one on the left "Andrew" and the one on the right "Alan" in honour of our former chairman.

The PCA has their own podcast studios ( Mmmm - Perhaps we could be ambitious and have our own TV studio)

Sarah was very kind in offering to let us use the podcast studio from time to time - we may take you up on that, Sarah!

The PCA do have some fantastic facilities - I think that Huntingdon is not a bad location for us to run some CPD courses.

I'm not sure about their store room - it was full of rotten and beetle-infested wood.